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[杂七杂八] 我该如何切入脑科学 —— 一位建筑专业者的疑惑 ? [复制链接]

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hcp4715 ?本论坛非常鼓励跨学科的交流,希望您在这里有所收获? 发表于 2012-5-28 15:59:59
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gaoandgaoflash + 1 脑科学真是深不可测
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moomoofarm + 10 很给力!
dazhi1987 + 1 围观……
bcy0000 + 10 赞一个!
hcp4715 + 20 很给力的问题!

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发表于 2012-5-28 11:43:52 |只看该作者
世界历史上的一些特殊美学现象也让我觉得,大脑激活区应该是重叠的。
[发帖际遇]:一滴水落在 Jimmy_飞行的小猪 头上,Jimmy_飞行的小猪 抬头看见 5 水晶.

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板凳
发表于 2012-5-28 12:32:54 |只看该作者
做脑科学确实很有意思,不过楼主的问题的都太宏观了,只有大大牛级别的人才会有这么宏观的认识啊。
我原来是学生物的,后来转了亚博体育流水--任意三数字加yabo.com直达官网神经科学。这个领域之前大都是学心理学的人搞的,后来才有很多个领域的结合。从我慢慢入门的经历来看,一般在还没入门的时候,看待脑科学都很宏观,也可以说是粗浅;等到了解越来越多的研究、研究方法和等等琐碎的事情,眼光会越来越集中在细节上,这个时候对宏观问题很迷茫,也来不及估计;再经历N久的训练、实践,渐渐才会有越来越宏观,到了这个阶段的一般都是大牛了。
要入门的话,如果没有导师指导,最好的办法就是找个感兴趣的领域的大牛的综述狂研究,包括综述里的研究和结果还有相关研究一一啃过,碰到具体问题再去查书。啃完之后,也算是半个专家了。
不过这个,要投入N多时间精力,打下的底子也自然是非常硬的了。
祝楼主好运~

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peaya paper真是体贴,总是能自动送来与我最近研究相关的文献

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发表于 2012-5-28 12:47:02 |只看该作者
欢迎您到脑科学的世界!

神经美学(或neuroaesthetics)是一个相对较新的经验主义美学的子学科。经验主义美学需要科学的方法来研究艺术和音乐的审美观念。 neuroesthetics于2002年获得沉思和艺术作品的创作神经基础科学的研究作为它的正式定义。 [1] Neuroesthetics使用神经科学的解释和理解的审美经验,在神经水平。主题吸引了来自包括神经学家,艺术史学家,艺术家和心理学家在内的许多学科的学者。

External links

? ? http://neuroaesthetics.net/
? ? http://www.neuroesthetics.org
? ? http://www.neuroestetica.org
? ? http://plaisir.berkeley.edu
? ? http://www.leonardo.info/
? ? http://neuroaesthetics.net

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? ? Elbs, Oliver (2005): Neuro-Esthetics: Mapological foundations and applications (Map 2003). Munich: m-press. (The first dissertation on Neuroesthetics, written by an art historian).
? ? Skov, Martin & Vartanian, Oshin (Eds.) (2009): "Neuroaesthetics". Amitiville NY: Baywood.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroesthetics

最新文章:

The Neuroscience of Beauty

How does the brain appreciate art?

By Steven Brown and Xiaoqing Gao??| September 27, 2011


The notion of “the aesthetic” is a concept from the philosophy of art of the 18th century according to which the perception of beauty occurs by means of a special process distinct from the appraisal of ordinary objects. Hence, our appreciation of a sublime painting is presumed to be cognitively distinct from our appreciation of, say, an apple. The field of “neuroaesthetics” has adopted this distinction between art and non-art objects by seeking to identify brain areas that specifically mediate the aesthetic appreciation of artworks.

However, studies from neuroscience and evolutionary biology challenge this separation of art from non-art. Human neuroimaging studies have convincingly shown that the brain areas involved in aesthetic responses to artworks overlap with those that mediate the appraisal of objects of evolutionary importance, such as the desirability of foods or the attractiveness of potential mates. Hence, it is unlikely that there are brain systems specific to the appreciation of artworks; instead there are general aesthetic systems that determine how appealing an object is, be that a piece of cake or a piece of music.

We set out to understand which parts of the brain are involved in aesthetic appraisal. We gathered 93 neuroimaging studies of vision, hearing, taste and smell, and used statistical analyses to determine which brain areas were most consistently activated across these 93 studies. We focused on studies of positive aesthetic responses, and left out the sense of touch, because there were not enough studies to arrive at reliable conclusions.

The results showed that the most important part of the brain for aesthetic appraisal was the anterior insula, a part of the brain that sits within one of the deep folds of the cerebral cortex. This was a surprise. The anterior insula is typically associated with emotions of negative quality, such as disgust and pain, making it an unusual candidate for being the brain’s “aesthetic center.” Why would a part of the brain known to be important for the processing of pain and disgust turn out to the most important area for the appreciation of art?

Our interpretation of the result comes from cognitive theories of emotion that argue that aesthetic processing is, at its core, the appraisal of the value of an object -- in other words, an assessment of whether an object is “good for me” or “bad for me.” The nature of this appraisal depends very strongly on what my current physiological state is. The sight of chocolate cake will lead to positive aesthetic emotions if I’m famished but to feelings of disgust if I’m sick to my stomach. Objects that satisfy current physiological needs will lead to positive aesthetic emotions (e.g., pleasure). Those that oppose these needs will lead to negative emotions (e.g., repulsion).

How does the anterior insula fit into this story? In thinking about the contrast between internal and external environments, the anterior insula seems to be much more associated with the former than the latter. It is part of the brain’s “interoceptive” system, evaluating the state of the organs of our body. Other parts of the brain, then, respond directly to objects in the external environment: the sensory pathways of the brain. (One part of the cortex that seems particularly important for processing information across many sensory modalities is the orbitofrontal cortex.)

Brain areas such as the anterior insula and orbitofrontal cortex that are activated by pleasant smells or tastes are also the parts of the brain that are active when we are awed by Renaissance paintings or Baroque concertos. There is virtually no evidence that artworks activate emotion areas distinct from those involved in appraising everyday objects important for survival. Hence, the most reasonable evolutionary hypothesis is that the aesthetic system of the brain evolved first for the appraisal of objects of biological importance, including food sources and suitable mates, and was later co-opted for artworks such as paintings and music. As much as philosophers like to believe that our brains contain a specialized system for the appreciation of artworks, research suggests that our brain’s responses to a piece of cake and a piece of music are in fact quite similar.

Are you a scientist who specializes in neuroscience, cognitive science, or psychology? And have you read a recent peer-reviewed paper that you would like to write about? Please send suggestions to Mind Matters editor Gareth Cook, a Pulitzer prize-winning journalist at the Boston Globe. He can be reached at garethideas AT gmail.com or Twitter @garethideas.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR(S)

Steven Brown is director of the NeuroArts Lab in the Department of Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. His research deals with the neural and evolutionary basis of the arts, including music, dance, acting and drawing. Xiaoqing Gao is a postdoctoral fellow at the Centre for Vision Research, York University in Toronto, Ontario. He studies the development and neural basis of face perception.

http://www.scientificamerican.co ... roscience-of-beauty


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hcp4715 ?给力? 发表于 2012-5-28 15:55:16
[发帖际遇]:leelog 发帖时在路边捡到 4 水晶,偷偷放进了口袋.
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Jimmy_朱毅, 感谢您,让我找回关于神经美学研究课题。 最初,我觉得这是只有少数人在这方面有兴趣。

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Jimmy_朱毅, 感谢您,让我找回关于神经美学研究课题。 最初,我觉得这是只有少数人在这方面有兴趣。

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发表于 2012-5-28 13:03:57 |只看该作者
世上还是好人多,这句话是对 的~~~
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发表于 2012-5-28 13:13:09 |只看该作者
我在大学,以及工作中不知道看了多少美学,艺术,和建筑学方面的书。因为这些东西牵涉一些文化,文化的历史,所以这种内容翻译的,或者原版的读起来都比较痛苦。我自己觉得我视乎以及了解了一些门道了。我现在很想做脑神经研究领域对设计方面的运用。设计感受到的一些启示提供脑研究的一些方向(就像最初的心理学对脑研究的作用),脑研究又给设计一些量化的指标和参数。如果要撕开这一切,口子是脑成像,核磁共振?激活区?

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发表于 2012-5-28 13:16:32 |只看该作者
非常感谢楼上的两位朋友。电子书和相关讯息是我最需要的,谢谢。

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本帖最后由 Jimmy_飞行的小猪 于 2013-2-18 14:14 编辑
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leelog 发表于 2012-5-28 13:02
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这正是我要的,谢谢你。
[发帖际遇]:Jimmy_飞行的小猪 朝52brain脑科学宝库栏目丢了 水晶 1 ,然后祈祷里面会生出元宝来.
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